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Our Thoughts on the Equity Bubble Narrative

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We’ve seen a influx on analyst & news media pointing to a Mag 7/tech driven equities rally. As we've mentioned earlier this year, some of this structural (Mag7 are index heavyweights hence will "contribute" more even on a equal move) and some of this ignores impact of different methods of returning capital to equity holders - buybacks (more common in tech) are captured in price indices whereas dividends (common in financials) are not.

On the latter, when we refer to our credit eqv. equity baskets & broader equity indices we look at Total NOT Price returns over time – the tech outperformance is much more stark (as expected) on price. This has added relevance when comparing to our credit baskets that are financials heavy - since 2020. 25% of financials total return has been dividends. As below table shows, total returns have not lagged by much in the Nov-to-date equity rally - which spreads have tracked closely.

Some may point to P/E ratios (or when inverted earnings yields) as a solution for removing the impact of dividends - we'd note 1) these (on Forward PE's) don't point to the extent of a bubble that price indices do - SPX's 1yr forward P/E is still lower than 2021 levels 2) both look at the non-cash metric net income - non-tech/mature sectors can still provide significantly higher FCF than tech names despite only being a fraction of the market cap - FCF conversion generally the focus for us/credit.

To account for all this, we focus on the flow through to aggregate (weighted mean & median) credit ratios on credit indices & use forward EPS estimates as a guide only. As we mentioned last week, IG balance sheets at aggregate have remained levered at healthy levels helping contain ICR increases to still within normal ranges.

We'd caution all of the above by noting tech now makes up large portion of equity markets (35% in SPX) & a reversal in current forward expectations for it could still impact broader risk sentiment. As BoFA strategist highlighted the other week, history may not be on the side of the tech/AI hype (below).

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